roidfreak (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

You're right! Even Stephane Vanel must have learnt with their publications. Actually, it's still hard to find information about multiple card production nowdays, you have to learn by trying yourself. However, even tho it was easier for Marvey, he undoubtedly goes beyond everyone!

wez1989 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

agree with you on the pivot...Marvey is a fantastic manipulator he does look more polished than jeff but you have to remember that when Jeff was learning there was no easy way to find out the information,,,,,I think Marvey would have learnt alot from McBride and Jeff Sheridans publications

MagicAngel94 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

WOW

roidfreak (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@Prometheus666333 I totally Agree!!! Every Lance's performance I watched was outstanding and his skills are amazing!!! I love his doves routine!

Prometheus666333 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@roidfreak Lance Burton also is pretty hardcore with his sleights.

roidfreak (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Seriously, man, idk if you study/perform magic, but I do both and I can assure you that Jeff struggles a lot to perform the moves, so it's nothing natural. His biggest problem is the pivot that swings too much so spectator can figure out the move. I posted one 'bad' performance of mine as response but just to show you how you can look more natural in production/pivot. But if you want to see a great performance, watch Peter Marvey's and so you'll understand what I mean.

LordChubChub (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Anyone know a better clip of this performance from WGM2 that doesn't have Chinese subtitles and having the audio lagging?

dovlino (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@roidfreak mate this guy is a fuking authority on sleight of hand!! and as for other magicains there is no such thing as a better magician when ur at his level. its all about style and hus to say which is better. as he is at tht level he is the best at wt HE does cos no one else can do it . becuase its his.

magicfinatic (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

its about personality and presentation and this guy has one of the greatest

roidfreak (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Honestly, I don't like much that performance. He has good skills, but his sleight of hand isn't real great and his pivot is terrible. Also, it's more artistry than magic. He is a great magician but there are some other magicians away better than him.